Grant Delgatty's Urshuz

 

During the summer of 2007, I received an Industrial Design internship with Vans Shoes in their equipment group. At the time, I was still in school at Georgia Tech in Atlanta. When I heard that I was hired for the job, I embarked on a cross country road trip that I will never forget.

While I worked at Vans, a man named Grant Delgatty was the Design Director. What I learned from Vans, Grant, and Safir (my other boss) has been indispensable in my career. I cannot thank them enough.

I reconnected with Grant several days ago and learned that he is in the process of launching his own footwear brand. I asked him a few questions to learn more about it:

 

?: What is your background in Product Design and what attracted you to it?

 G: I knew I always wanted to be some sort of a designer when I was young.  After I graduated from high school,  I was accepted into a fairly prestigious graphic design and illustration program at a community college in Vancouver, Canada called Capilano College.  Upon graduating from this school, I got a job working as a junior graphic designer at a rather large firm in Vancouver called The Design Works, where much of my time was involved in designing building signage.  While I was attending Cap College, though, I knew I had more of a interest in designing three dimensional objects, so I began to entertain the thought of becoming a product designer.  It was about a year into working for this design firm, that I realized I wanted to pursue my dream of becoming a product designer.

I had heard about an amazing school in Pasadena called Art Center College of Design, so the summer following the year I graduated from Cap College, I took a trip down to LA to check the school out.  I instantly fell in love with the school, and the work the students had produced.  I applied for the program, and was accepted to begin in the fall of 1992.  I graduated three years later in the fall of 1995 with a degree in Industrial Design.

Although I had never thought of being a 'shoe designer', one of the jobs being offered upon graduation, was an entry level designer at K-Swiss.  I quickly began to realize that I really enjoyed designing shoes, and this became the start of what has become a 16 year career in footwear design.  My employment background had me at K-Swiss for a very short stint, as it was a part time job that paid very little.  I then worked for a short time at a product design consultancy called SKD in Marina Del Rey.  After SKD, I got a job working for a shoe design consultancy called E-West design, where designed shoes for many different athletic and lifestyle shoe brands including Puma, Converse, Tretorn, Nautica, and Vans.  One of the brands we started doing design work for, was a little start-up brand called DVS.  As DVS began to grow very quickly, I ended up taking the position of head of design for this company that grew to $40 million in sales in 4 years.  After being at DVS / Lakai for almost 4 years, I was recruited by Vans to head up the design department.  I left Vans 3 years ago to start on the journey that has now become Urshuz (pronounced 'yer shoes').

 

?: You were my design director when I worked at Vans shoes and I know your experience in the footwear industry extends well beyond Vans, what frustrations with the footwear industry led you to create your own revolutionary brand?

G: After seeing the growth success of DVS, and then Vans, I felt that I would like to attempt being on the ownership side of things.  The one thing I knew, though, was in order to be successful in the ever competitive shoe industry, we would NEED to have a strong point of difference.  This was when I came up with the idea for Urshuz.

 

?: Your upcoming brand, Urshuz, breaks down the conventions of classic and contemporary footwear, could you describe how your shoes are unique?

G: Essentially, Urshuz takes the 'commercial' out of the design process.  Many times while I was at Vans and DVS, I had consumers ask me for example, "Can you make this shoe with a 'red' top, and a 'blue' bottom?".  The thing is, when you are dealing with a mass market product such as shoes, the decisions you make when it comes to color combinations, have to be made considering how 'commercial' it is, meaning 'which color combination will sell the best?'.  I knew there may be an interesting opportunity for a footwear product to essentially allow the actual consumer to become part of the design process, instead of being forced to buy whatever the company felt would be the most commercial.

I also understood that there were already a number of web-based avenues for the consumer to have this same 'customizable' experience , however, I determined a couple drawbacks to these sites.  One, it took several weeks to receive the shoes you created, thus taking away from the 'instant gratification' of being able to have your product right away.  Two, once you had created this 'custom' shoe, that was it.  There would never be another way to switch it out for another combination, except to start from scratch ordering another pair of shoes.  Urshuz has a patent pending system that allows the consumer to mechanically attach the upper to the sole.  It does so by using a series of elastic 'U' rings attached to the bottom of the uppers, which then feed into channels molded into the outsole.  With the use of this system, the consumer is able to easily and quickly attach and detach the uppers from the soles, thus allowing for the never ending ability to change the look of 'Urshuz'.

 

Urshuz assembly method

 

?: What have been the most challenging and rewarding aspects of creating your own brand?

G: Challenging - money, time, and a tremendous learning curve to developing a type of shoe that has NEVER been done before!

 

Screen capture of the Urshuz website

 

?: What does the future hold for Urshuz and yourself?

G: It has been said many times to me that we will be the "next crocs".  Although I think in most cases this was meant to be a compliment, I am not sure how much association I would like to have with them?  I do hope that Urshuz will be able to have the global reach that crocs has (or had), however, it is my desire that we are considered an authentic, youthful, 'cool' brand, that is trend relevant, extremely comfortable, and very environmentally conscious (did I mention, our soles and footbeds are 100% recyclable?).  As for me, this thing has been my baby for the last 3 years, so I think the thing I am most looking forward to, is FINALLY having the product hit the stores this spring!

 

The Urshuz Collection

Look for Urshuz in stores June 2011 and check out the Urshuz website for more information.

Art Center At Night Catalog

I recently took a class at the Art Center College of Design's night program as a continuing education course. The course was titled Design Process and was taught by Stan Kong. Coming from the more technical based ID program at Georgia Tech, it was beneficial to learn a little about Art Center's approach to Industrial Design education.

During the class, I designed a travel bag for DJs and they published my sketches for it in their latest catalog.

I'd like to thank Stan Kong for recommending the sketches to be publishing.

Rob Curedale Interview

 

Rob Curedale is an extremely accomplished Industrial Designer. He is behind the highly successful LinkedIn design networks. With his groups, Rob has managed to bring together designers all over the world for several design mixers. I attended two mixers in the Los Angeles area, one at RKS in Thousand Oaks and one at Continuum in Venice Beach. The mixers were an amazing opportunity to meet local Product Designers and explore highly successful consulting firms. From the online front, Rob's LinkedIn groups encourage beneficial design related discussion and the opportunity to connect with Industrial Designers around the globe.

Rob is originally from Australia and has managed and directed design departments in several avenues of Product Design all over the world. He is the President of Curedale Inc. Rob has also taught design all over the world including at the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena and was the Chair of Product Design at the College for Creative Studies in Detroit. Additionally, Rob is a Jurist for the Spark International Design and Architecture Awards and has been featured in Innovation, Forbes, the ID Annual Review, and on the Discovery Channel.

Rob Curedale is a designer that I am extremely inspired by and I was very excited to have the opportunity to interview him:

 

?: What is your background in design?

Rob: I was born in Australia and worked as a designer, design director and design educator in London, Sydney, Vevey, Switzerland, Portugal, Los Angeles, Silicon Valley, Hong Kong, China and Detroit. 

I have designed furniture, medical, technology, and consumer products in global markets including Europe, Australia, Asia and North America. Curedale (Rob's consulting firm) has designed hundreds of products as a consultant and an in-house design manager at corporate offices and consultancies. Clients include HP, Philips, GEC, Nokia, Sun, Apple, Canon, Motorola, Nissan, Audi VW, Disney, RTKL, Government of the United Arab Emirates, British and Australian military, Steelcase, Hon, Castelli, Hamilton Medical, Zyliss, Belkin, Gensler, Haworth, Honeywell, NEC, Hoover, Packard Bell, Dell, Black & Decker, Coleman and Harmon Kardon. 

I have lectured and taught widely internationally, including at Yale, Pepperdine MBA Innovation Program, Loyola Business Management Program, Art Center Pasadena, Cranbrook, Pratt, Art Center Europe; a faculty member at SCA and UTS Sydney; as Chair of Product Design and Chair of Furniture Design at the College for Creative Studies in Detroit (then the largest product design school in North America), Art Institute California, Hollywood Campus, Cal State San Jose, Escola De Artes e Design in Oporto Portugal, Instituto De Artes Visuals, Design e Marketing, Lisbon, Southern Yangtze University, Jiao Tong University in Shanghai, and Nanjing Arts Institute in China. 

For design and pleasure I have visited more than 1,000 cities in over 40 countries.

 

?: What challenges have you met in developing your own firm and what are the most rewarding parts of owning your own design business?

Rob: I managed a design business in Sydney called Axis for ten years. I have managed a business in Detroit and for the last five years in Los Angeles.

I try to design products that show critical thinking and empathy and are more than restyling commodities. A friend told me that his wife's nursing job was made easier when her hospital purchased some prenatal intensive care products that I had designed. Last week I was interviewed by Skype about a chair that I had helped design thirty years ago that a Berlin exhibit curator had discovered by accident and realized the historical significance of some technological innovations and then went to some trouble to track down those involved in the project. I was at an attorney's office last week and she asked me what type of things that I designed and I was able to point to some Dell speakers on her desk that I had designed. It is this type of personal encounter with products in use that I find rewarding.

 

?: You have been involved with many specialties of product design, what is your favorite area to develop products and solutions?

Rob: I like medical products because they can have an importance beyond appearances. I like products that participate in small experiences that can seem insignificant to others but be significant to a person. This type of experience can be associated with even a cheap simple product.

As Ettore Sottsass put it, the difference between a President's speech and love whispered in the dark. We are told that The President's speech is important but love whispered in the dark is a personal experience that may have more real personal meaning for us. The most challenging role for the designer is to have empathy for others to help create by design this type of meaningful experience rather than selfishly elevating personal self expression and ego. I think that Steve Jobs shows this type of empathy through Apple products that create a satisfying experience. Perhaps it is a Buddhist way of thinking about experience rather than just the object or possession of the object.

 

?: Being that you are a design professor as well, how would you define 'design thinking' and how do you believe this method of problem solving will influence business practices in the future?

Rob: Design Thinking for me is an approach to designing that recognizes that creative and analytical thinking are necessary to develop a successful design. That these types of inputs need to come from a group of people working closely together. Individuals are usually better at one or the other type of thinking but not often at both. That design is an iterative process making ideas real and testing and refining them.

Design Thinking is a way of discussing design that communicates the value of a particular approach in creating and implementing new and better ideas rather than incrementally improving existing ideas. The design thinking approach is one way that Western organizations may remain competitive because it moves Western companies beyond just recreating and restyling existing products. This is a practice that cannot continue to allow Western organizations to be competitive. We must add more value through clever and courageous thinking to stay in business. It allows closer and more productive collaboration between technical thinkers like managers and engineers and creative thinkers like designers. These are different thinking styles.

 

Curedale Inc. website

 

?: Being that you have lived and worked in several parts of the world, how does (if it does) the language and process of design change throughout the world?

Rob: Differences are driven by regional cultures and economics. Compared to the US Designers in the UK and Australia think more analytically perhaps exercise the left side of their brain more than US designers. They are more concerned about the way things work as well as the appearance. They may be responsible for parts of the design process that would be usually undertaken by engineers in the US. This is partly driven by the scale and economics of US manufacturing and market.

I have seen research by TECAtech in 2008 that suggests that Chinese designers are focused more on value and functionality than Western Designers. Chinese designers find their inspiration more often in nature poetry and technology than Western Designers. Inclusive design is more important for Chinese Designers than Western Designers. 

Drawing is an important tool for product designers but I think that sometimes the art created by a designer as part of the design process is elevated above the quality of the end design in the US. Drawing is of value if it helps create a better design. The quality of the design of the car on the showroom floor is more important than the quality of the rendering that helped create that design. The car may be driven by tens of thousands of people and uses non-renewable resources. The rendering may be framed and hang on one wall perhaps if it is good. We are designers not artists and we should be proud to be designers. 

Anglo-Saxon designers- US, Germany, UK, Ausralia- tend to concentrate on the appearance of objects and the visual sense. Designers in the countries surrounding the Mediterranean sometimes consider relatively more the other senses including touch, smell and sound when designing products and experiences. The experience of an Italian car for example sometimes stimulates by design more of these other senses than a car designed in the UK or US. There is a legacy and sophistication in Italian furniture design that has developed over thousands of years of advanced practice and experience.

 

?: Your LinkedIn Industrial Design network recently reached 10,000 members, what has been your process in developing these highly successful hubs of networking?

Rob: I started those groups a few years ago when I saw that there were no design groups on LinkedIn. The groups have grown to around 70,000 members. I have tried with the groups to stimulate a higher, more interdisciplinary and and more global level of discussion than previously existed in the design professions. The groups have attracted the leaders of our profession internationally.

I wanted to incourage and try to initiate discussions that were being avoided by existing societies and industry groups such as the growing need for balancing environmental responsibility with business, technology, and people considerations in design. Yesterday, I was involved in a discussion that included the GM and Director of Design at NEC in Japan, a past VP of design from the French Auto company Renault, a leading Industrial Design Headhunter, the Director of Design at a major UK retail chain as well as leading design educators from Korea, and Cambridge University.

I regularly organize real world design networking mixers that are cross-disciplinary with engineers, architects, interior designers, product designers, graphic, retail, and exhibit designers attending. I think that this type of networking is richer and more likely to lead to useful exchanges of ideas than the traditional types of functions with only Industrial Designers. The events have had up to 400 people attending. My process to develop these groups has simply been to ask challenging questions that invite discussion.

 

Industrial Design LinkedIn group

 

?: What does the future hold for yourself and your LinkedIn networking groups?

Rob: I have created an organization called The Design Foundation. Design Foundation was established to promote cross-disciplinary international discussion and collaboration between diverse fields of design and architecture. We provide a forum for designers to exchange ideas and address important global issues through professional social networks while enjoying participation in real-world local mixer events in their regions.

The Design Foundation mission is to create, develop, coordinate and promote opportunities for the global professional design community to educate, communicate and network.

 

The Design Foundation website

Continuum Design Mixer

Reception desk signage

 

The IDSA LA chapter teamed up with Continuum and the Industrial Design Linked In network for a design mixer on October 14th. Rob Curedale is the creator of several Industrial Design related Linked In groups and has been organizing networking events for designers all over. The last mixer was held at RKS in Thousand Oaks and was highly successful. Continuum's Venice Beach studio is located within the walls of Charles and Ray Eames' former office. The open air studio spaces and brainstorming rooms make for an extremely creative environment with historic relevance. 

 

Wall outside of brainstorming and conference room

Continuum office was once the studio of Charles and Ray Eames

Continuum seating project

Work area

Designers networking near the Target display

Continuum developed the original Reebok pumps

Cervelo bikes display

 

The evening consisted of several speakers from Continuum associates to Art Center professors. One of the speakers, Nick Agid, is a pioneer in material processing. Mr. Agid integrates colors and forms into glass and plastic on the molecular level to create pieces for clients such as BMW, Sun Microsystems, Reebok, and others. Some applications for his materials are anywhere from lighting and architectural wall treatments to plumbing fixtures to signage. His pieces are truly cutting edge and unique.

 

Nick Agid presenting

Nick Agid's plastic structure

Nick Agid piece for lighting